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"And there was war in heaven:The titanic Battle for the Universe"

This is a work in Progress. Comments and arguments are very welcome.

In the beginning

Anglican Archbishop, James Ussher, purported to establish the age of the earth to be a mere, six thousand years old. He calculated this using Biblical Chronological references and is now used by young earth creationist. Geologist, Astronomers, Physicists and scientist in general, on the other hand, believe that the earth is billions of years old. But does the Bible really say that the earth is only six thousand years of age? We will see that it does NOT!

Would it surprise you to know in the Bible, that the true beginning, in time ordered sequence, is not what is recorded in Genesis? The real beginning, according to what the Bible reveals, is actually recorded in the New Testament book of John. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made."(John 1:1-3)

Yes this is before everything; before anything that was made! Two supreme, eternal beings, that make up the God family; known by the Hebrew word: Elohim. Elohim is a uni-plural word equivalent to: Church, family, or team in English. That's what your Bible says! Compare Genesis 1:26. Read it in your own Bible! God did NOT say "let me" or " I will"; READ IT!

The Two Creation Accounts

"In the beginning God [Elohim] created the heavens and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters." (Genesis 1:1-2)

Compare the above to Job 38:4-11where God Rhetorically, questions Job:

"Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth , as if it had issued out of the womb? When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it, And brake up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors, And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?"(Job 38:4-11)

Notice the Angels [morning stars; sons of God] were witness and therefore created before the earth!

These verses speak of the original creation of the earth. And all the angels, seeing it's beauty and purpose, singing for joy. The earth had been completed, at that time, in it's full beauty and splendor. One major fact to keep in mind here, which makes this absolutely clear, Job 38 Verse 8 plainly states: "Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth , as if it had issued out of the womb?" Note this well! The sea "BRAKE FORTH", "ISSUED OUT", and had to be "SHUT UP".

Comparing the Genesis account:

"And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters."(Genesis 1:2)

Here we see the Earth and the state it was in, when God was starting to work on it, at that time. NOT AT ALL as it is described in Job 38 where it's foundations were laid first and then water was introduced. But the condition of the earth, here in Genesis, is more like we would find it after the flood of Noah; After the Rebellious sin of man and divine judgment brought on a cataclysmic event!

Incidentally; some would suggest that everything was made with water; since it covered the earth. This actually comes from pagan religion. Reading through Psalm 104 would completely negate this idea, since it shows a reforming of the earths surface; with mountains ascending and the water running down into the valleys. Look at Genesis1:9: "And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, AND LET THE DRY LAND APPEAR: and it was so." Land was already there beneath the water!

Psalm 104:8 says: "The mountains rose, the valleys sank down to the place which thou didst appoint for them."(RSV). Everything was NOT made with water. Psalm 104:30 gives us even clearer insight to the Genesis account saying: "Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth." He was reworking the earths surface in Genesis 1! More on Psalm 104 and pagan influence later.

Once again! The earth was covered in water and the dry land had to appear, once the land was reformed and the waters were displaced; in the Genesis account. Job 38:8 is saying the EXACT OPPOSITE; waters burst forth flowing into the assigned places of the earth and therefore, cannot be speaking of the account recorded in Genesis 1:9, but a time long before the recreation in Genesis. It's right there and plain to see, so that a child could understand it; it cannot be denied! Job 38:4-11 speaks of a careful planing and design and a beautiful creation with all the angels singing with Joy. The ORIGINAL creation! The Genesis account shows something very different! We don't even need to go into the translation problems of Genesis1:2 to see this! But for the sake of total clarity we will get to that.

Now one other thing I'd like to point out here. The seemingly strange little phrase that most would read over not thinking too much about: "my decreed place"(Job 38:10). What is a decreed place? A decree is defined as: An authoritative order having the force of law. God is saying this is going to be the place where his GOVERNMENT and LAW are to be established. The angels were happy because this is what God had created for them, and they then had a purpose to carry out. Why else were they so happy that they sang and shouted with such joy. Singing and shouting is state of emotional excitement. I sense it is strongly implied; the angels were excited to be given responsibility and purpose of governing "God's decreed place".

So we have here two different accounts. One, the original; angels witness (Job 38). The other a recreation in Genesis. Something happened somewhere in between! What was it?

The origins of Satan and the war in heaven.

Now we need to understand who Satan the Devil is! He is, after all, a key figure in all of this and one we needs be concerned with. As we should know already, he is an evil being; out to deceive and destroy us. But where does he come from? Why is he Evil? Why does he hate man? Did God create the Devil? The answers to these questions are keys to understanding much more!

Revelations 12:9 calls him "that old serpent". Well exactly how old; the Bible doesn't say. We do know he's been around since Adam and Eve and was present at the original creation. We read about him in Genesis chapter three when he deceived Eve in the garden of Eden. And he was already Evil at that time. So is there there a story about his turning evil that predates the creation of man? Does the Bible speak of Satan at an earlier time; A time before man was brought into existence? There are two key chapters in the Bible that provide us answers to these questions. Let's have a look at them one at a time.

We begin with Ezekiel 28 where he is commissioned to take up a lamentation  against the King of Tyrus. But it is easy to see this goes much further than a human King and is actually Satan the Devil being described here. The verses Prior to this are directed at the Prince of Tyrus, not the King; this gives us a further clue as to who is being described here; since a King is more Powerful than a Prince; as an Angel is more powerful than a human. Though, we must also keep in mind here, there is a human component here that Satan is working through; or IN.

"12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. 13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. 14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. 16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. 17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee." (Ezekiel 28:12-17)

We can see that Satan started out, in the best possible condition God could create him, in Verse 13. He was at the very throne of God and he was an: "anointed cherub that covereth". See Exodus 25:20. He was, "upon the holy mountain of God" and, "perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created". So clearly, if we understand the symbolic language here, he was trained in the law and government of God. In the symbolic terminology of the Bible the "holy mountain of God" is the government or kingdom of God (Daniel 2:34-35,44). But something went terribly wrong! We read: "till iniquity [lawlessness] was found in thee" and that he was filled with violence and sinned. Sin is the transgression of Gods law (1 John 3:4). This is when he became Satan the Devil. Keep in mind this is far before the creation of man—he was already Satan when man was created—and that he was, "in Eden the garden of God"; this is WHEN and WHERE he turned to evil. RIGHT HERE ON THIS EARTH!

Now, we come to the all important second chapter, in understanding his [Satan's] story. Here we will gain even greater understanding, as to what took place. And again this starts out as a proverb, against a human King, but switches over, speaking of more than a human king. So it is at this point we start, in the book of Isaiah, chapter 14.

"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High." (Isaiah 14:12-14 KJV).

Now we're seeing some action!  We see how Lucifer, drunken on his own pride, attempted a coup against God.  He became so full of violence that he tried to take over the UNIVERSE! The phrases "I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation" and "I will be like the most High" clearly indicate this. Notice the capital "H" in High. He wanted to be God! GOD RULES THE UNIVERSE!

This was a TITANIC battle! To compare it with WWI and WWII; and all other human wars in history combined would be like comparing human wars to ANTS, and that would be a stretch! As we will see in the following chapter our solar system—in fact the entire universe—bear the scars of this most ancient of conflicts. But lets return to our present study.

We also have more information about Satan now: Not only, was he trained in the law and government of God, as we seen in Ezekiel, but he was also a high ranking Angel in that government. He had a throne as a King! He must have had somewhere and someone to rule over. Revelations 12:3-4 tells us who his subjects were: one third of the Angels. In Ezekiel it says he was: "perfect in his ways" and he was: "in Eden the garden of God"; until he became LAWLESS. Notice he had to: "ascend into heaven" and: "above the heights of the clouds".  This puts him, long before Adam was created, ruling the earth on a THRONE! Otherwise, all this would have had to taken place sometime at the end of the so called creation week. That is a ridiculous idea, giving this scenario only hours to occur before the creation of man!

He was also then, before he turned to iniquity and violence, called by the name "Lucifer". This name comes from the original Hebrew word hêylêl and occurs only once in the Bible. The Brown-Driver-Briggs' Hebrew Definitions says: Lucifer = "light-bearer" 1) shining one, morning star, Lucifer. He was renamed later Satan which means adversary. Clearly he turned to darkness from the light.
Have a better look at Revelations 12:3-4. "And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.  And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: ... " It's not hard to see what is symbolically implied here. Although this verse has an end time fulfillment it shows Satan's position. Satan leads that third of the angels, in rebellion against God, resulting in their downfall. He drew them into war by deceiving them when they were in Eden!

Both Ezekiel 28 and Isaiah 14 show that Satan was cast back down to the earth. Christ confirms this: "I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven," (Luke 10:18 ). CHRIST WAS THERE! He was the WORD in the beginning [John 1] and he created Lucifer before he became evil! And Satan is still here now, on this earth, and he is still on his throne! 2Corinthians 4:4 reveals to us: "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds...". If he is here and he is "god of this world" then God must have appointed him so and left him so; temporarily.

The Genesis1:1-2 Gap

Now with all this Biblical evidence in mind we can take a more in depth look into Genesis. Lets remember that scripture cannot contradict scripture. If the Bible contradicts itself then it would be an uninspired book of myth. So, if it seems to do so then there is a problem somewhere and it is usually in either interpretation or translation. Since we are working here with the instruction: "precept upon precept, line upon line" (Isaiah 28:10,13); Genesis1:1-2 comes into question. Either these verses contradict all the other scriptures on this subject that are plain and clear to see, or they are further revelation to the truth of the matter. It is also noteworthy to mention here that no translation is inspired. ONLY the original words given to those people of the Bible are inspired.

What we are dealing with is the Hebrew language, so we should get some idea about it first.

The character of the Hebrew language, is one that focuses more on observation, rather than deep philosophical reflection. As other early Semitic languages, things are looked upon as they appear;  not as to what "are" as in an sense of essence. Effects are merely observed and not pondered over, as to where they came from, or how they happened to be. The language is very condensed making it hard to translate what it is fully trying to convey. These characteristics mean that more English words are needed to, fill in the blanks, so to speak. A single Hebrew passage may take up to twice as many words to translate into English.

Another serious problem for translators is the fact that a single Hebrew word can have many various meanings. This then becomes difficult to sometimes determine the exact shade of meaning in a given passage. Sometimes words can even have two opposite meanings; such as the word for "bless" can also mean "curse". There are however certain tools that are used to overcome these difficulties such as context and syntax.

Syntax is what we are most interested in when it comes to Genesis1:2 because it is the word order that will determine a better translation here. Hebrew writers had to devise a way to change a single verbal form without changing the verb itself. In short it is the order of the words that will determine weather a verb is pluperfect [past tense] or perfect tense. The normal order of the Hebrew sentence is to place the verb before the subject and then the object. But when the verb and subject are reversed the perfect then becomes pluperfect. Thus "was" should be "became" or "had become". This is a rule that is rarely deviated from.

Now translators have not always followed the rules and one can only speculate as to why. But it has caused, at least in one case that I am aware of, an apparent contradiction. Reading through Genesis 1:24-26 we see that God made the beasts and then created man. But apparently in Gen 2:19 man was made first. Obviously the correct translation should be "had formed" in Gen 2:19.

Now Genesis 1:1 simply states that "In the beginning (at an indeterminable time period) God created the heavens and the earth". There is no arguing this verse and what it says. God did this in the beginning, but is this verse a summery for the following, or is it just a statement?

It is Genesis 1:2 that we need to determine the true meaning of. This verse has been the subject of much controversy. It begins with what is known in Hebrew as WAW which in the KJV has been rendered here: "And". But it can be rendered many, many other ways, such as: so, then, when, now, or, but, that, Although, and more.

There are two forms in which it can be rendered here: A conjunctive WAW or a disjunctive WAW. Since the word order of Gen 1:2 calls for a pluperfect the more accurate rendering would be a disjunctive like "but" or "then". Also the verb, "was" [haw-yaw'] is better rendered "became" or "had become" so that, as the syntax calls for, it is pluperfect. This very same Hebrew word is rendered in Gen 19:26. "and she became [haw-yaw'] a pillar of salt".

So now we have a rendering of: "Then the earth became without form, and void;...." This looks much more fitting to the scriptures we have already studied. But lets go a little further shall we!

The next thing we need to look at is the phrase: "without form, and void". As previously stated Hebrew words can have various meanings. I think the context here calls for some investigation into the meaning of the original words "Tohuw" and "Bohuw" that make up this phrase.

Tohuw: "From an unused root meaning to lie waste; a desolation (of surface), that is, desert; figuratively a worthless thing; adverbially in vain: - confusion, empty place, without form, nothing, (thing of) nought, vain, vanity, waste, wilderness." (Strong's Hebrew and Greek Dictionaries)

Bohuw: "From an unused root (meaning to be empty); a vacuity, that is, (superficially) an undistinguishable ruin: - emptiness, void." (Strong's Hebrew and Greek Dictionaries)

Now look at the various amount of ways these words could be translated more clearly into what we have studied. Translating them "without form and void" seems a little obscure don't you think. Obviously the earth had form. It was a sphere; that's a form. What about void? When I think of void I think of empty blackness of space; nothing. I suppose you could say it was void of life and we could better understand that in English. But just void! No form and void that's NOTHING! So going with their translation it's really saying: "And the earth was nothing and darkness was upon the face of the dee.....COME ON!

So let's look at what we have here: "Then the earth became a desolation, and empty; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters." That's more like it! All the other scriptures point to this as a more understandable rendering. And this is the way it can be rendered! The way translators have rendered it leaves too many unanswered questions. Now seeing it rendered this way begs the question: how, did the earth become that way?

Lets also look at how Tohuw and Bohuw are used in the context of other passages to cross-reference though. Notice what C. I. Scofield says about "without form, and void":

"Jeremiah 4:23-27 ; Isaiah 24:1 ; 45:18 clearly indicate that the earth had undergone a cataclysmic change as the result of divine judgment. The face of the earth bears everywhere the marks of such a catastrophe. There are not wanting imitations which connect it with a previous testing and fall of angels."(Scofield Reference Notes 1917 Edition)

Jeremiah 4:23 uses the same phrase "without form [Tohuw] and void [Bohuw]" to describe the state of the earth after a divine judgment by God. It is the only other place you will find these words together in the Bible. Also Isaiah 24:1 shows the consequences of Gods wrath: "Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste,...."

Notice also in Isaiah 45:18 God says: "For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain,..." the word translated vain is Tohuw, the exact same word in Gen 1:2. If God does not create things Tohuw, then the earth must have become Tohuw! It's the most logical way this makes sense.

In Genesis1:2 we find the earth described as in a state of total ruin. It came to be in that state after Lucifer became Satan and brought divine judgment on himself and his angels. The resulting devastation of a decimated earth is clearly seen in this verse. There is an unknown amount of time between Genesis1:1, the original creation of the universe (Job 38) and Genesis1:2; the renewing of the earth (Psalm 104). Most likely billions of years! That's what the Bible says!

Why the translators rendered Genesis1:2 the way they did, as I have already stated, can only be speculated on. But It most likely comes from the bias of their pagan backgrounds. In pagan mythology everything arose out of chaos; a shapeless mass. So they seen this in the condensed Hebrew wording and failed to look more closely at the grammatical rules of the language. Clearly though, the Devils hand is in this, as he is the author of the false pagan religions.

Order and Sequence of events

OK so what do we know so far. We know first that there were two divine beings. And that one of them, the word, made all things (John 1:1-4; Eph 3:9; Col 1:16-17; Heb 1:2). We have seen that the Angels were present to the original creation of the earth and overjoyed (Job 38:4-11). Lucifer, the highest accomplishment of Gods creative power at that time, was placed there with one third of the angels (Rev 12:4) to govern it . But Lucifer became full of pride and led a war campaign against God, to take over the universe (Ezekiel 28:12-17, Isaiah 14:12-14).

Note Jude 1:6 that further corroborates what we have so far: "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day." Mark this point well: They kept not  their "first estate" but "left their own habitation", Just as we have seen with Lucifer ascending into heaven above the heights of the clouds in Isaiah 14:13-14. They followed Lucifer, leaving earth, to WAGE WAR in heaven!

Here we should make a note of this. In Noah's days the earth became rife with sin [Lawlessness]. This brought a total destruction policy by God: "And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them." (Gen 6:7) This is God's war policy; everything must go. Evil must be stamped out and eradicated; cut out like a cancer. Notice this commandment to Israel: "But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:  But thou shalt utterly destroy them...." (Deuteronomy 20:16-17) Why? "That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the LORD your God."(v18) Those who try to honor God with pagan traditions should note that verse well. Incidentally, and as we will see in the following chapter, this policy apparently left the entire universe in a state of decay according to (Rom 8:22).

Lucky for us, Noah found favor in Gods eyes and was saved from the deluge. But the entire earth was wiped out with a flood. Now, if Angels inhabited this earth, which they surely did, and they came to total sin; then we could expect to find the earth in such a state as we see it did in Noah's day. Lo and behold this is exactly the state we find it in Genesis1:2.

Now we can top this off with one final scripture that proves this time-line once and for all:

"For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly...."(2 Peter 2:4-6)

Look how clearly this is stated! First we have "Angels that sinned" Second we have the "Antediluvian World of Noah" Third we have "Sodom and Gomorrah". Could it be any more plain to see? The time-line is established; a definite order and sequence of events that gives us a clear understanding of the story-flow.

Let's also, here, take an insightful look at Psalm 104, which contains some key passages to the understanding of this topic. It is quite clear, reading through this Psalm, that it's main theme is the Genesis account. It most assuredly parallels Genesis 1 and reveals things we need to understand. For the sake of space read this entire Psalm in your own Bible before moving on.

Notice the time-line again in this Psalm. First he creates angels: "Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:"v4; then the earth: "Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever."v5; then for some reason covered it with a flood: "Thou coveredst it with the deep as with a garment: the waters stood above the mountains." v6; then began a reworking "At thy rebuke they fled; at the voice of thy thunder they hasted away." v7 on. Finally v30 summarizes the Genesis1 account this way: "Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth." Yes God RENEWED the face of the earth after a cataclysmic event!

Psalm 104 cannot be talking of the flood of Noah as some would argue. In Noah's flood the waters had to recede slowly (Genesis 8). Here we find God had covered the earth with water v6 and then caused them to move very quickly vv7,8 as in Genesis1:9. This unequivocally proves a reworking of the earth in Genesis 1!

Created or made

Now there is an argument that God created everything in six days and that is that. The argument comes from the standpoint of one single scripture found in Exodus 20:11. This scripture is quoted as the following: "For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it." Seems pretty conclusive doesn't it. But once again, since this single scripture seems to contradict the overwhelming amount of scriptural proof we already have, we must investigate. It is our duty to God to "prove all things". (1 Thessalonians 5:21)

Notice the word used here "made" but back in Genesis1:1 we find the word "created". What we need to determine is the meaning the original Hebrew is trying to convey here. Since there is very clear scriptural proof that the earth had already existed for some time, then it is only logical that  Exodus 20:11 is saying: God made everything with the existing material. The original Hebrew word [aw-saw'] means: to do or make, in the broadest sense and widest application. Therefore we could render it: " For in six days the LORD fashioned [shaped] heaven and earth" or " For in six days the LORD  prepared heaven and earth". Either one of these is a fair rendering of the scripture. The context does not call for an ex nihilo creation event! That is, something from nothing. The overwhelming weight of scripture is on this side of the argument.

We are told God made [restored] the Heaven and earth and all that are in them in Six days.  Anything Pryor to that first day of Genesis 1 is not included, for there was no day. God made them IN those days! So Genesis1:1-2 have to be excluded since the first day did not begin until the light came and was divided from the darkness. Otherwise, The light would have to be created first, and divided; only then would the formless void of the earth be included in the six days! Also no work started until the phrase "And God said" which is verse 3! God speaks and it's done (Psalm 33:9). Genesis1:2 does not say "And God said, Let there be a formless void ball of water for me to work with". It's clear; the earth was already there, having suffered the wrath of God during the fall of the Lucifer.

In Genesis 3:4-5 we find Satan for the first time in scripture. Now he's already evil and deceiving. He's already God's adversary. But Both Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 clearly reveal that at one time he was not evil and followed Gods law perfectly. The Bible say's he turned to lawlessness; sinned and went to WAR with God. Now you know When and where; and what the RESULT was!

Concluding Statement

Satan wants this knowledge hidden because it points to the beginning and meaning of Gods government; the purpose to which man was created. It is the Gospel message that Christ brought to the Earth; The TRUE GOSPEL MESSAGE OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD! Satan is the adversary of God's government, so hiding it from us is paramount to him. He wants us to follow his government, and his FALSE GOSPEL; which, as we have seen, will lead—and is leading—to the DESTRUCTION OF THE EARTH! The good news is that Christ is comings back to establish the kingdom of God on this earth. That is the true gospel.

Written by Craig Somervile. © 2011
Emphasis mine throughout.
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